MLB Showdown 2012: Starters +600 points
This
class of “elite” pitchers is not what year’s class was. Verlander was a
slightly milder version of himself this year. He played great this year but
didn’t have that same aura of invincibility this year that he had last year.
His 2.40 ERA last year ballooned up to 2.64 (though he went from fourth to
third in the league). If he had the same 24 wins as last year I wonder how we
would have viewed his year. Clayton Kershaw has figured something out (like how
to face the Giants or Padres every other game). He has learned to throw strikes
and trust that stuff. David Price has also proven to be an elite pitcher
consistently. Everything about him is elite besides his pickoff move. Max
Scherzer is not the ERA title contender the other three are. However, no one
struck out more players per 9 than Scherzer with 11 per 9 innings. That is the
19th best in a single season every behind the following names,
Martinez, Wood, Gooden, Ryan, Schilling and Randy Johnson.
Since
this is a small crew each player is going to get their own look. The first one
is David Price as a 6, 6 IP, 16-20 1B, 13-15 FB, 9-12 GB, 3-8 SO for 600
points. Last year I would have hated this guy because of the league wide speed
of the best players. A minimum of 25% of lead-off hitters get on base against
Price. His 3-8 SO gives you a chance to get of jams. The 9-12 GB will get a lot
of double-plays. He is just a very average 600 point player. I don’t see him
throwing a lot of scoreless games. He seems just as vulnerable to bad games as
other 600 pointers. I don’t like him as a number one starter. He could be a
force as a number 2. The question is can you afford 1,200 points for 2
starters. He is versatile and go deep into games if your offense has taken a
sizeable lead. He is the lowest rated player for me in this bunch.
Max
Scherzer for the same 600 points you can get the same 6, 6 innings pitched. The
difference is the chart being a 20 2B, 17-19 1B, 16 BB, 12-15 FB, 11 GB, 3-10
SO. The 1 double and 1 walk on the chart comes to about a wash compared to
Price. The difference for me is 10% better chance of getting a SO on the chart.
The double play is not a weapon for Scherzer. I still don’t think he is a legitimate
number one starter at 600 points. He won’t get many shut outs like Price. He is
a hair better than Price in my estimation. I also would put him as a second
starter. I would put a more dominant 550-600 point starter as the one in that
situation… unless you got one of the following.
Clayton
Kershaw is a legitimate number one starter. His 5, 7 IP, 18-20 1B, 17 BB, 12-16
FB, 10-11 GB, 3-9 SO is the most well rounded of these four. His 630 points
makes him the most expensive starter. He can throw shut outs and complete games
without help. He doesn’t have an extra base hit on his chart, He has a bigger K
than Price. His 17 BB makes it harder to create runs against him. I am not sure
I would take him in the first round but someone will because he is the best or
at worst second best pitcher in the class. He has the ability to throw complete
games which is expected at over 600 points. His only competition is…
Justin
Verlander as a 4, 8 IP, 20 2B, 19 1B, 18 BB, 14-17 FB, 12-13 GB, 3-11 SO for
630 points. Verlander has the advantage of refreshing the bullpen in most games
except maybe your closer, which makes him worth a good portion of the 630
points. The big strikeout keeps runners from being created against him. The 18
BB is a great trap door. I would take Verlander first if I wanted to go
pitching heavy. I think he would beat anyone straight up and allow me to save
on the bullpen to add to my line-up. His only weakness is he is the most
susceptible to power, especially the power 8’s.
No
matter who you pick this guy needs to win 75% of their games or more. This
number needs to be even high if you put one of these guys as a number 2.
Pairing any two of these guys should be intimidating and lead to a 500 point or
less bullpen. Last year’s class only had 2 600+ point players but was more
appealing this more expensive class. I am interested in seeing how the draft
and league info comes back on these four.
Really like the look of Kershaw's card this year. But the 8 IP of Verlander is also very nice, he'll go 9 every game most likely unless he gets rocked.
ReplyDeleteDid you already post the high point corner outfielders? I dont remember seeing them. Thanks!
I am surprised Price turned out the way he did considering he won the Cy Young.
ReplyDeleteThen again, I do see he was ranked 8th in WHIP, 7th in Hits per 9 innings. I know he was 2nd in ERA though.
ReplyDelete6, 1-15, no double, 1-8 none advancing out is going to be difficult to put lots of runs up against. To be maximized he is going to need a big time catchers arms behind him. Without the elite speed like last year I think he could really excel. No one counters Cabrera/Dunn better than Price
ReplyDeleteIf I took Cabrera/Dunn/Cano/Hamilton/Stanton with my first pick I wouldn't really like him, say you pull a Braun/Trout/McCutchen with a first pick and snag a Molina/Hanigan in round 2-6 you may look at Price as being a great fit for a balanced to slightly pitching heavy team
ReplyDeleteThanks for the input Colbs. Ultimately in Showdown, it is how the pieces all fit together. On some teams, Price is great fit; on other teams, you might want to choose another piece.
ReplyDeleteI agree and sometimes Showdown comes down to picking your poison. Price will have a difficulty against speed A punts. Even against guys he automatically gets the advantage against they bat .250. He of the 4 pitchers listed needs to most help. Again if this was last year where you could see 5-6-7 speed A players in a line up he would be really weak. The elite speed isn't there this year which helps him. He also can be stretched. The other 3 are less maintenance but 30 points more. We will see what happens with him. Love the discussions though
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